1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,340 Dear all, colleagues, students. 2 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:22,290 Avelina has been kind enough to invite me to introduce Mercedes Montesinos 3 00:00:22,290 --> 00:00:30,120 and many thanks to Avelina and all those who have bothered to come 4 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,800 or who have an interest in these issues. 5 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Mercedes Montesinos is the author. 6 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:45,800 Mercedes Montesinos holds a degree in Biology from the Complutense University of Madrid 7 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,800 and also in Pharmacy. 8 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Since those years we know each other 9 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:02,200 because the Bachelor of Biology and Geology, I am a geologist, 10 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Biology and Geology degrees had just separated very recently. 11 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,780 Because in the past, all the professors, the great professors 12 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:15,100 geologists, and more from the Complutense University, and biologists 13 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:19,000 had actually studied natural sciences. 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:30,000 In other words, they were more broadly trained than they are today. 15 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:36,700 I studied botany, paleozoology and then, of course, zoology, 16 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:40,200 palaeobotany, palaeozoology, palaeontology and so on. 17 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:46,200 And Mercedes Montesinos studied Quaternary and Human Palaeontology. 18 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:52,200 In Quaternary and Human Palaeontology we organised a trip to Senegal and Mauritania 19 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,200 by the 1960s. 20 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:02,900 And so, one of the first intentions 21 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:06,400 was what is now called climate change, 22 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,800 because of course, what we did was to see the deposits in Nouakchott, 23 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,800 the Quaternary deposits of Nouakchott, 24 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:28,800 quite far inland from the coast of Mauritania, inland 25 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:35,400 and these deposits had already been published by 1910, 26 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:44,400 The thing is that at that time, Mauritania was called Senegal. 27 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,400 and Morocco was what was called Mauritania. 28 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:56,400 In other words, the geographical locations have also changed in terms of the old publications. 29 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Another of the things we were looking at was the IFAN collection, 30 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:08,400 the French Institute of Black Africa. 31 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:22,000 It is called French, then foundational, because they kept the acronym by changing an initial. 32 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:34,400 I mean that already many years ago, there was already an intention to investigate 33 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:45,200 the issues that were at the root of the migration of African fauna, 34 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,200 even as far as the Mediterranean. 35 00:03:48,200 --> 00:04:04,200 In the last interglacial, the Mediterranean deposits in 1914, they were called "the layers with strombus" 36 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,500 and the strombus live, as a genus, in all warm seas 37 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:16,500 and as a species, in particular the strombus bubonius, in the Gulf of Guinea; 38 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:34,800 having its southern boundary in Angola and its northern boundary in Dakar and the Cape Verde Islands. 39 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:44,800 After that, Mercedes Montesinos took competitive examinations. 40 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:50,800 So you have done something that I am totally against, 41 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,600 and against the World Bank and all its cronies, 42 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:03,600 which was work, work, work and never stop working. 43 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,800 She was then reclaimed from the nuclear energy board by the Ministry of Environment 44 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:16,800 and it is there that she has tried to fight for politicians of all stripes to 45 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,800 who have been her bosses, will not go far wrong. 46 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:34,900 She has been a great contributor to all of this and has held positions such as 47 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:43,150 Area Coordinator of the Office of the Secretary General for the Prevention of Pollution and Climate Change 48 00:05:43,150 --> 00:05:48,350 Coordinator of the Cabinet Area of the Secretary of State for Climate Change, 49 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:53,650 Coordinator of the Cabinet Area of the Secretariat of State for the Environment, 50 00:05:53,650 --> 00:05:59,950 and Support Unit for the Directorate General for Environmental Quality and Assessment. 51 00:05:59,950 --> 00:06:10,950 She had something inside her that told her, I could not do my doctoral thesis at the time. 52 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:21,450 In fact, she had it made many years ago, but the circumstances of work and service 53 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:32,450 had prevented her from doing it, and now she chose us to do her doctoral thesis. 54 00:06:32,450 --> 00:06:39,450 And then she is the one who is going to talk to them about the doctoral thesis. 55 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:41,650 Thank you all very much. 56 00:06:41,650 --> 00:06:52,650 Sorry. I remembered seeing Avelina, who tells me that palaeontology is very important, 57 00:06:52,650 --> 00:06:58,050 because nobody has ever given importance to palaeontology here, not even politicians, 58 00:06:58,050 --> 00:07:05,050 despite the fact that famous people like Lyell have come to study and publish the deposits of La Palma, 59 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:10,550 but here, the administrations have ignored the whole paleontological question 60 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:13,550 of the whole issue of fossils 61 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:18,550 and also the university itself to a certain extent. 62 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:26,550 So what I wanted to tell you about palaeontology is that it gives a new vision 63 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:30,550 to the people who know palaeontology. 64 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:40,000 I'll give just two examples, to see if I can remember one of them, because everyone says so. 65 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Who came first, the chicken or the egg? 66 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,500 You have no idea about palaeontology. 67 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:53,500 Because chickens are birds, birds lay eggs, 68 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:58,200 the ancestors of birds are reptiles, reptiles lay eggs, 69 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Therefore, the egg always comes before the chicken, and those who do not know this are fools. 70 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,200 That on the one hand, and on the other hand, for example, 71 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:21,680 the other day I saw a picture on the internet with a human of ours who had 8 toes on each hand and foot. 72 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,680 I would have liked to ask you what you think about it. 73 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:33,180 Quite simply, 350 million years ago, the first fish that emerged from the sea 74 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:42,180 had 8 protofingers, and then, in a few million years, from 8 to 5; 75 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:48,180 which is the pentadactyl limb of the terrestrial tetrapods. 76 00:08:48,180 --> 00:08:56,080 Land tetrapods, all whales and all snakes even if they have no legs, and all birds. 77 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:03,080 So this is the chiridium, the chiridium. The hand. 78 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Te quiero agarrar (I want to grab you). 79 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,080 And agarrar also comes from garra. 80 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:19,080 So four-legged digestive tracts, that is what we are. 81 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Always eating, and the opposite. 82 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,580 Thank you very much Joaquín for the presentation. 83 00:09:29,580 --> 00:09:34,580 As you have seen, has no merit after getting to know us 84 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:37,780 since I was 17 years old and I am 68. 85 00:09:37,780 --> 00:09:44,280 I do thank him for the words he addressed to me, because he is right, 86 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,780 I mean, I'm a freak, I've been in administration for 44 years, 87 00:09:48,780 --> 00:09:54,500 and as a general manager I had, he always told me: 88 00:09:54,500 --> 00:10:00,600 "May God pay you, because we have already seen what the administration pays those of us who are here," he said. 89 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,600 and what the administration will pay you tomorrow if you are not civil servants. 90 00:10:06,860 --> 00:10:12,240 They are taking away our privileges, not only our extra pay, but also our muscosos days, 91 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,240 that we have earned for being grey-haired. 92 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,640 And that in reality, those days were given to us because they could not pay us money. 93 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,700 So, it is clear that I had 15 moscosos and now they have left me with 3, 94 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:26,960 like many of us here. 95 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:32,950 So when I got in touch with Avelina and she had told me that she had created this forum 96 00:10:32,950 --> 00:10:38,500 I loved the idea of a knowledge-sharing, science promotion cycle, 97 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:42,900 because it is obvious: white hair, 68 years old... 98 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:46,900 and I became enthusiastic about the idea of doing the thesis 99 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:55,900 when I was lucky enough to fall into the good hands of Antonio, Per, Álex, Joaquín and Tachi; 100 00:10:55,900 --> 00:10:58,400 who encouraged me to start from the beginning, 101 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,700 because logically when I did that thesis at the age of 24 it never occurred to me, 102 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:08,700 because I couldn't continue with my work, so I had to validate the subjects 103 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:11,200 and so I had to start from the beginning. 104 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:23,200 I was lucky enough to meet people like Pedro Sosa, Luis Felipe, mi Señora de los Rodolfitos. 105 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,800 In other words, I had my work cut out for me, well worked out. 106 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:34,080 But I have not regretted it, because for the last 24 years that I have been in the administration, I have not regretted it, 107 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,780 I started by doing reports, advising the people next door, 108 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:41,640 but logically you are then sent to management, 109 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,940 that is, you have to manage; and you like it, but you don't like it 110 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:49,000 and fell into the hands of the nuclear energy board, 111 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,800 who gave me a very good training, because the military was there when I got there. 112 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,100 We were all squared, 113 00:11:57,100 --> 00:12:03,100 but they teach you to think, believe it or not, they teach you to think and to commit yourself to the work. 114 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:12,800 When we entered Europe and the first meeting had to be held, Spain was the presidency, 115 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,500 I was taken from the board to go and lend a hand to the ministry, 116 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:25,060 because at that time the Environment was in the Ministry of Public Works, in other words, civil engineers. 117 00:12:25,060 --> 00:12:30,760 Talk to road engineers about environmental impact, about the things that had to be done. 118 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:37,260 What I mean is that we have had, in the course of time, to adapt to the changing times 119 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:42,760 and when I saw the possibility, which I, moreover, had studied in the field of radioecology 120 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:48,260 the possibility of leaving for a while, then in the evenings when I got home, 121 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:51,660 to devote myself to what I liked, which was research. 122 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:56,660 Even if it was on paper, and to be able to collaborate with this university, I was delighted. 123 00:12:56,660 --> 00:13:00,150 When Avelina said "could you give pep talks to the kids?" 124 00:13:00,150 --> 00:13:05,850 My presence alone, in other words, it is clear that we must never give up. 125 00:13:05,850 --> 00:13:10,100 There are possibilities for everyone, and it all depends on the effort you put into it. 126 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:13,250 So I have divided the talk into two parts, 127 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:19,250 because of course what I have done in the thesis, under the guidance of Antonio and Joaquín, 128 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:26,000 is to study two fossils, two little things that were there and what this leads us to. 129 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,500 I am going to tell you what happened here in the Canary Islands, 130 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:32,700 that there has been climate change. 131 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:38,200 I'm going to tell you a little bit about what is known about the progress of climate change, I'm going to start there. 132 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:45,700 I always say one thing when I teach a class about the environment that relates to what Joaquín said. 133 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:59,900 The present we are living in has developed out of the past, 134 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:06,400 but our future depends on what we do in the present. 135 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,200 And it is exactly the same for the issue of climate change and the environment. 136 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,700 I always tell one thing and that is that when I am the environment class. 137 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:19,000 One thing is very clear. 138 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:25,500 When Europe and our country suffered two great wars in the 20th century. 139 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:27,400 Then what happened? 140 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:33,900 Politicians, no matter who they were, found themselves with unstructured countries, 141 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:40,400 families with generations missing, no jobs and destroyed cities. 142 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:46,900 And the first thing they had to do in their own country was to rebuild the country, 143 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:50,600 create jobs and settle the population. 144 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,400 So what was the problem? 145 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,900 Nobody cared about the environment. 146 00:14:54,900 --> 00:15:01,200 From there came the industrial boom and from there came the fact that little by little we are destroying everything. 147 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,500 Then, at the Stockholm Conference in 1972, the alarm was sounded, 148 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:13,800 the Bruntland Report and the Club of Rome begins, 149 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,200 and then we started to deal with the concept of sustainable development. 150 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,200 But does that lead us to what we are really aware of? Well, we don't know. 151 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Is climate change a new thing? No. 152 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Earth is a living planet. The Earth defends itself. There we have all the glaciations. 153 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,500 We all know that climate change has always existed and will always exist. 154 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:42,800 Now, what needs to be seen is how far the andropogenic influence takes us. 155 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:49,300 So I have divided the talk into two parts. 156 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:53,800 What is climate change and what I have told you about my thesis I will skip over. 157 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,980 This is our planet, which looks like this from the moon. 158 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:08,280 We look like somebody, don't we? But no, we don't look like anybody. 159 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 But what is to be done? 160 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,280 Think globally and act locally. 161 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:22,280 That our passage through the galaxy is already. As long as we live; we are no one. 162 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,780 So what do we know about climate change? 163 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:31,580 What we know is that humankind as a whole has increased emissions 164 00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:37,780 and concentrations of greenhouse gases that have always existed in the atmosphere. 165 00:16:37,780 --> 00:16:43,180 But if this increase is not slowed down, the intensification of the greenhouse effect will 166 00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:47,180 could lead to unnatural climate change. 167 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:52,680 Irreversible in the short term and harmful to human life and nature. 168 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Human life as we know it now. 169 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,180 What are the causes of climate change? 170 00:16:58,180 --> 00:17:01,180 We have external causes and internal causes. 171 00:17:01,180 --> 00:17:03,180 As for external causes, 172 00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:07,680 we have variations in the orbital parameters; the Milankovitch cycles. 173 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Some scientifics agree with, some don't. 174 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,180 Variations in solar irradiance; solar cycles. 175 00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:20,020 And then meteorites due to the presence of interstellar dust. 176 00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:25,870 Then we have internal ones, such as volcanism; aerosols of various origins, 177 00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:30,370 that are natural, non-volcanic or produced by human activity; 178 00:17:30,370 --> 00:17:37,470 changes in the concentration of greenhouse gases, which can be of natural or human origin; 179 00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:45,670 and changes in the land surface; desertification, deforestation, albedo changes... 180 00:17:45,670 --> 00:17:49,670 Much of this is the cause and we humans are to blame. 181 00:17:49,670 --> 00:17:55,170 This is an example of the Milankovitch orbital parameters, 182 00:17:55,170 --> 00:18:01,570 and this would be the radiative forcings. What solar radiation we receive, 183 00:18:01,570 --> 00:18:05,570 which is reflected and which is the terrestrial radiation emitted. 184 00:18:05,570 --> 00:18:10,570 What are the common greenhouse gases, what are the origins? 185 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:13,570 And their contribution to global warming? 186 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:18,070 There are basically 4 types of gases: 187 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:24,070 CO2, its main sources are the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation 188 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:28,320 and it contributes to global warming by 55%; 189 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:34,620 chlorofluorocarbons and related gases, which come from various industrial uses: 190 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:40,420 refrigerators, foam sprays, solvents and then extensive agriculture, 191 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:42,820 which contribute 24%; 192 00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:47,920 we have methane, coal mining, gas leakage, deforestation, 193 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:54,120 plant and soil respiration due to global warming, and enteric fermentation, 194 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:55,620 is 15%; 195 00:18:55,620 --> 00:19:02,060 and nitrous oxide, i.e. agriculture, intensive forestry, biomass burning, 196 00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:07,560 the use of fertilisers, the burning of fossil fuels; that is the least affected. 197 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,560 So where does the CO2 come from and where does it go? 198 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,560 In gigatonnes per carbon per year, we see who produces it. 199 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:24,560 Fossil fuels and cement we have 5.5 tonnes, 200 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960 tropical deforestation 1.6 201 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Total anthropogenic emissions 7.1, but where do they end up? 202 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:38,000 3.3 accumulates in the atmosphere, 2.0 or so is fixed in oceanic systems, 203 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 and in the fixation of ground systems a 1.8. 204 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,640 This is a clear example of what civilisation is leading us to, the light pollution. 205 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:58,140 Here we can find out which countries contribute most to global warming. 206 00:19:58,540 --> 00:20:07,900 It is clear that it is the developed countries that contribute the most: The United States 30.3%, 207 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:16,900 the European Union 27%; already all the countries that are not underdeveloped this is what we contribute 208 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:18,900 to global warming. 209 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:22,900 What is expected to happen with global warming? 210 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:29,400 There will be temperature differences, sea level rise, rainfall variation. 211 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,400 What is this going to do to us? 212 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Health impacts, agricultural impacts, impacts on forestry, impacts on water resources 213 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,400 and in everything else, in the forests and so on. 214 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:53,000 So from the point of view that we tried to capture in the thesis that I did. 215 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,200 What is really going to change the sea level? 216 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,800 Three main causes: 217 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Thermal expansion is one of the main contributors to historical sea level changes. 218 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:14,300 It is expected to contribute the largest component to sea level rise over the next 100 years. 219 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:19,300 Deep ocean temperatures change very slowly, 220 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:23,800 thermal expansion would therefore continue for many centuries. 221 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,300 The geographic distribution of sea level change is the result of 222 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:33,840 of geographical variation in thermal expansion, changes in salinity, 223 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,540 of winds and ocean circulation. 224 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:43,740 It will also modify the sea level when the oceanic water mass rises or not. 225 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,000 So what are the causes of sea level rise? 226 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,300 It will be a function of the source and the changes observed. 227 00:21:54,300 --> 00:22:02,300 In this transparency we see the observed changes in the mean surface temperature, 228 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:09,300 in mean sea level rise according to tide gauge data shown in blue. 229 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:14,300 And on satellite, this is data from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 230 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:21,650 and the decrease in snow cover in the northern hemisphere during the period March-April, 231 00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:25,650 The same period, March-April, is always taken. 232 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:31,150 If we look at what is the comparison of the observed data, 233 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:35,650 we have the changes all over the continents as you can see, 234 00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:41,150 the most certainly in the United States and Europe, 235 00:22:41,150 --> 00:22:47,150 then what would be the global change below, the global change of the Earth and the global change of the ocean. 236 00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:55,050 Normally this has been done with simulation, with mathematical models, taking some data, 237 00:22:55,050 --> 00:23:01,550 we see that if there were no anthropogenic activity, the normal line would be blue, 238 00:23:01,550 --> 00:23:07,900 but if we take anthropogenic action into account we would be shooting ourselves in the foot. 239 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:15,400 As you can see over the years, the models predict that there is going to be a lot of variation. 240 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,300 So what are the climate changes that are predicted for the future? 241 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:27,500 In the future, the average global temperature is expected to increase from 1.4 to 5.8 degrees Celsius; 242 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:34,900 The Northern Hemisphere's emerged surface area will decrease and Antarctic Ocean ice will increase; 243 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:39,400 sea level to rise from 9 to 88 centimetres; 244 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:46,000 and other changes and an increase in extreme weather events. 245 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:53,500 We have always said that there was seasonality change, but abrupt temperature changes, 246 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:59,500 I mean, when I was a child, in Madrid there were 4 seasons: spring, summer, autumn, winter; 247 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:02,400 now we move from the bikini to the fur coat, 248 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:09,500 But not only that, it happens for weeks at a time. 249 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:15,000 For example, last week in Madrid we had highs of twenty-something degrees, 250 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,000 And well, yesterday I went out there at 2 degrees. 251 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000 It's those abrupt changes in temperature. 252 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000 The Canary Islands have always had a privileged climate. 253 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,500 Do you want to tell me what we are doing at Gando airport at 19:00 at almost 30 degrees? 254 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:36,000 It's not normal, we haven't even had it in August. 255 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,500 So perhaps climate change will lead to these extreme weather events 256 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:49,000 this is all long-term, but there is already some representation of it. 257 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,500 So to predict the change in future climate scenarios, 258 00:24:54,500 --> 00:25:01,500 the people at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, that there are people who are advocating 259 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:07,500 the work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and other detractors, 260 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:13,300 because, of course, the expert who was not included got angry, and as he got angry 261 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:20,300 then all is disproved, everything in this life is the same, 262 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:25,300 that when we are left out of something the way is to lash out at the insider. 263 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:32,000 The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has a number of scenarios. 264 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:42,000 We have a society in which there are more and more of us on Earth, 265 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:49,000 we have to take into account demographics, societal development and energy consumption. 266 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,500 Taking these factors into account, we know the emissions we produce. 267 00:25:53,500 --> 00:26:00,500 We have carbon, it goes into the carbon cycle, it gives us a series of concentrations. 268 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:07,500 Then we have with a planetary radiation balance, we arrive at radiative forcings. 269 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:12,500 A climate system is modelled, the future climate is produced. 270 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:16,700 We then look at the patterns of impacts. 271 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:26,000 With this modelling and this background, the Intergovernmental Panel gives us scenarios. 272 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,500 Scenarios that would range from a society, 273 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:37,300 we have to say; gentlemen, there is climate change, we stand up, we think about what we do, 274 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:42,300 What model of life do I want, what do I understand by quality of life, what do I understand by social welfare? 275 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:47,300 Because the welfare state that we had now has led us to have 5 million 276 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,100 so it must not have been very good. 277 00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,380 5 million unemployed. Welfare. Quality of life. 278 00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:56,700 Based on these scenarios they envisage, 279 00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:59,800 with the transparency I explained earlier, 280 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:06,800 there is a best estimate of temperature change, each society chooses how it wants to live. 281 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:13,350 Based on these scenarios, we know what the issue will be, 282 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:17,550 how much it is going to affect the temperature, and then we have the curves 283 00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:23,550 of how the sea level is rising according to the scenario we have selected 284 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:31,550 Starting from my thesis and trying not to be too boring, but I am going to be. 285 00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:39,850 But have the Canary Islands undergone climatic changes? Of course they have. 286 00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:44,850 How can they not undergo climate change, the planet Earth has undergone climate change 287 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:50,860 since life began on planet Earth. 288 00:27:50,860 --> 00:28:00,460 We have chosen 2 fossils for my thesis and to see exactly what happened. 289 00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:05,460 One was the Saccostrea cucullata of Born ans the other one the Harpa rosea of Lamerck. 290 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:11,660 These come mainly from the seas of the Gulf of Guinea, 291 00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:19,160 and here we have found fossils in marine deposits in the Canary Islands. 292 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:27,860 It then allows us to compare the 2 interglacials where they were alive with the current one. 293 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:32,520 We have chosen these species because they are palaeoindicators. 294 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:38,520 We do it with remote sensing because it gives an idea of the temperatures we can have. 295 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:45,520 We know that probably the last interglacial and the penultimate major interglacial 296 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:54,520 are the most similar to the present day and that the Canary Islands have these deposits that are fossilised here, 297 00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:00,520 but a little bit further away, like the Cape Verde Islands, they are alive. 298 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Because they are alive and kicking. 299 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:12,220 Then because these 2 species are each attributable to an interglacial period 300 00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:19,420 Then because these 2 species are each attributable to an interglacial period. 301 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:26,620 we have the possibility of inferring from the conditions it requires for its existence 302 00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:31,620 those of the Pleistocene and for that we have used remote sensing. 303 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,620 We have realised the geographical context ranges from the Canary Islands to Angola, 304 00:29:38,620 --> 00:29:43,620 focusing primarily on the Gulf of Guinea. 305 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:47,220 This is the geology of the Canary Islands. 306 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:54,520 Most probably the Canary Islands arise from a slow movement over a hot spot. 307 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,020 active for more than 20 million years. 308 00:29:57,020 --> 00:30:04,020 Sedimentary records showing climatic changes over the last 5 million years. 309 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:10,020 Then there are warm phases in which marine terraces are interspersed with palaeosoils. 310 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:14,500 This indicates an arid climate with wet intervals. 311 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:20,500 And then there are arid episodes because there are aeolian and calcrete deposits. 312 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:27,000 There are some marine deposits that contain the Saccostrea cucullataand the Harpa rosea 313 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,200 which now inhabit the west coast of Africa and the islands of the eastern Atlantic. 314 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:43,400 TheSaccostrea cucullata has been found alive, i.e. by a few specimens 315 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,900 and described in a wealth of literature, alive from Angola to Ghana and on Ascension Island. 316 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:55,900 and fossils are in the Canary Islands in Gran Canaria on the coast of Arucas, in La Granja del Cabildo 317 00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,900 and in Lanzarote at the Piedra Alta site. 318 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:08,900 These are the deposits, I'm going to put them quickly, if anyone is interested we can analyse them. 319 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:12,700 This is the site of Cardones, in Gran Canaria, 320 00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:18,900 which has all the characteristics of the geological survey and this is the Lanzarote site. 321 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:23,150 Here you can see how the different camps were. 322 00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:28,950 Here it is important to see that there we had a Saccostrea cucullata 323 00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:33,950 that they couldn't take out because it broke and stayed there. 324 00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:40,450 This is the Saccostrea cucullata of the Barranco de Cardones. 325 00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:45,850 We know that it is a Saccostrea cucullata because unlike the others, 326 00:31:45,850 --> 00:31:52,550 is characterised by the heel or rostrum forming a right angle with the rest of the shell 327 00:31:52,550 --> 00:31:57,050 and that is a typical feature of the Saccostrea. 328 00:31:57,050 --> 00:32:05,750 Regarding the Harpa, we have them alive from Angola to Senegal and from Ascension Island to Cape Verde. 329 00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:10,750 We have fossils in Gran Canaria, Fuerteventura and Lanzarote. 330 00:32:11,150 --> 00:32:18,750 In Gran Canaria it is in Arenales de Santa Catalina, which no longer exists because it has been built on top of it. 331 00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:37,850 The first place they appeared was in the Luengo tunnel, which means that they are underneath 332 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:46,850 of the abandoned stadium, and they appeared the last time, afterwards, 333 00:32:46,850 --> 00:32:52,850 when the maternal car parks were built, because the island hospital was there. 334 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:59,640 Both times, the highest levels were called upon, 335 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:13,640 to leave a part that could be visited at a congress or by people interested in deposits, 336 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:20,140 deposits which were first described in 1865 by Lyell 337 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:26,640 in the sixth edition of his books, Elements of Geology. 338 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:34,240 And there is no answer, the first time it was the Socialist Party that was responsible, 339 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,240 and the second time it was the Popular Party, that is, it is of no interest here at all. 340 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:47,240 Nothing that is truly Canarian and cultural other than an isa. 341 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Then in Fuerteventura it is in Matas Blancas and Las Playitas 342 00:33:53,040 --> 00:34:01,220 and in Lanzarote in Matagorda or Guasimeta, where the site has also disappeared 343 00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:03,420 And in Punta Penedo. 344 00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:10,420 Well, here you have what Joaquín says, how the cut is and everything that has been built on top of it. 345 00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:15,120 And then we have Matas Blancas and Las Playitas, 346 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,120 usually the one who has collected the specimens is Doctor Meco. 347 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:27,420 This is Fuerteventura and the Guasimeta has also disappeared. 348 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:32,920 If we look at the comparison of Canary Island fossils of Harpa rosea with current specimens, 349 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:40,920 there is no doubt that these are the specimens. 350 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:48,520 What has been the evolution of bioclimatic conditions in the Canary Islands since 240,000 years ago? 351 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:56,820 These transparecies are thanks to the kindness of my thesis director, Joaquin 352 00:34:56,820 --> 00:35:00,220 who has them published and I have appropriated them. 353 00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:07,720 As we can see, the sea level during the Upper Pleistocene, there was a rise in sea level 354 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,440 of 12 metres above sea level in Las Palmas. 355 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,940 There were paleosoils and marine deposits interspersed with dunes. 356 00:35:15,940 --> 00:35:23,540 From the age of the Teno lava flow we knew that there were lateritic paleosols with altered pyroclasts, 357 00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:30,540 indicates that there was high humidity and very high temperature, which allowed the vegetation to develop. 358 00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:35,910 And there was a spring effect of the inferred terminations and paleotemperatures 359 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:39,460 of the Senegalese fauna present in the Canary Islands and the Mediterranean. 360 00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:46,460 These are oceanic conditions that we are seeing being reproduced today. 361 00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:53,460 Below are the heights of the sea levels it had suffered. 362 00:35:53,460 --> 00:36:00,240 Climate variations over the last 420,000 years, 363 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:06,240 The marine isotopic status ranges from marine isotopic status 11.3 to 5.5. 364 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:14,060 Here we have marked in different colours what corresponds to the warm period, 365 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:21,660 to the marine deposit which has a Senegalese fauna, the arid-warm period, which had calcretes, 366 00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:25,570 and then the arid-cold period, which was rather prolonged. 367 00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:31,970 According to this, and according to the evolution and achievement of everything that is happening, 368 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:38,170 for the arid-warm period that would precede a future glaciation is still to come; 369 00:36:38,170 --> 00:36:41,970 because our destiny is clearly a new glaciation. 370 00:36:41,970 --> 00:36:46,370 We will not see it, but it will happen. 371 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:52,770 What was the fluctuation of sea level in the Canary Islands during the last interglacial? 372 00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:59,170 In deposits attributable to the marine isotopic period 5.5, 373 00:36:59,170 --> 00:37:08,170 this was a forced passage of the Senegalese fauna into the Mediterranean, as Lyell said as early as 1865. 374 00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:15,770 The deposits of Fuerteventura and Lanzarote were taken wrongly as Pleistocene. 375 00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:22,570 They were wrongly dated, they were not Pleistocene, they were Mio-Pliocene deposits. 376 00:37:22,570 --> 00:37:28,570 We were therefore unable to confirm the Mediterranean model. 377 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:36,770 There was a deposit with hundreds of Strombus buboniusdescribed by Meco in the year 1975. 378 00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:44,370 And uranotorius dating was carried out between 1985 and 2002 in 4 laboratories, 379 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:50,370 but they were not useful for distinguishing stages, sub-stages or nearby isotopic events, 380 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:59,870 because the results on adjacent shells gave very different types of antiquity. 381 00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:06,490 As for the height of the tanks, we saw that in Las Palmas, 382 00:38:06,490 --> 00:38:10,690 were 12 metres above present sea level. 383 00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:17,190 In the north of Lanzarote, plus 9 metres, but it is an area that is affected 384 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:20,440 by volcanic eruptions that occurred in the 18th century 385 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:28,440 and by others from the Upper Pleistocene, so tectonics probably helped the uplift. 386 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,060 Nor are we certain to say. 387 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:38,060 And in the south of Fuerteventura, the elevation in relation to the current sea level 388 00:38:38,060 --> 00:38:40,060 was less than 3 metres. 389 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:45,460 It mainly occurred in the centre of the island, on the west coast, 390 00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:52,760 that there is a plateau of loose fossiliferous conglomerates at a height of about 5 metres. 391 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:59,260 As far as Senegalese fauna is concerned, we know that the Strombus bubonius, 392 00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:07,760 are always associated with coral Siderastrea radiansand theHarpa rosea, that live in the Gulf of Guinea. 393 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:14,330 We know that Harpa rosea moved to the north, arriving to the Canaries, 394 00:39:14,330 --> 00:39:21,930 but never reached the Mediterranean; which leads the representation of the Senegalese fauna; 395 00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:25,750 which requires a narrower warm interval than strombos; 396 00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:29,450 which is far more resistant to migration; 397 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:35,450 and that their presence corresponds to the peak of climate change 398 00:39:35,450 --> 00:39:38,450 of the marine isotopic period 5.5. 399 00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:44,910 It has therefore been chosen for comparative studies on temperature in the last interglacial 400 00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:47,910 by remote sensing. 401 00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:52,910 Then in the interglacial, in the isotopic period 11.3, 402 00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:59,510 in my thesis we also saw that, as the Atlantic Ocean is the only ocean in the world, 403 00:39:59,510 --> 00:40:03,610 running from north to south and tracing like a perfect vertical, 404 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:07,020 and that there may be similarities on both sides. 405 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:12,460 As far as we were researching the bibliography 406 00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:18,020 that had been published on marine isotopic status 11.3. 407 00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:26,020 There is published evidence that there were deposits 400,000 years ago 408 00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:30,220 which would correspond to an additional 20 metres above sea level; 409 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:38,220 and that was in the Bahamas, Ohau, Alaska, United Kingdom, Netherlands Antilles and Bermuda. 410 00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:43,520 As for Bermuda, we are all scientists, and when you publish something, 411 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:51,020 another comes along and thinks about whether what he says is true or false. 412 00:40:51,020 --> 00:40:57,240 They then put forward counter-arguments, but instead gave counter-replies, 413 00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:03,240 that is to say, they kept quiet against those who interfered. 414 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,550 What is happening in the Canaries? 415 00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:13,550 In the Canary Islands, it is demonstrated because it has a warm fauna in high marine deposits, 416 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:15,550 as in Lanzarote, in Piedra Alta. 417 00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:22,550 This indicated that it was an interglacial with a violent episode. 418 00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:29,250 The wash with pillow lavas dated to 421 kiloyears in Gran Canaria at Barranco Cardones, 419 00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:37,050 indicates the beginning of marine isotopic period 11 or sub-stage 11.3. 420 00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:39,310 There is the Bermuda controversy, 421 00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:43,630 I have already said that they were symmetrical to the Canaries along the North Atlantic axis, 422 00:41:43,630 --> 00:41:49,430 was the main support to demonstrate the sea level rise to more than 20 metres. 423 00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:57,430 It is an argument we can use for the next rise if Antarctic ice melts. 424 00:41:57,430 --> 00:42:05,230 Was this really because there was a tectonic at isotopic period 11? 425 00:42:05,230 --> 00:42:06,430 We do not know. 426 00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:10,750 Do these deposits really correspond to a megatsunami? 427 00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:14,250 Or do they correspond to serene deposits? 428 00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:20,020 It so happens that in the Canary Islands we have both, with Senegalese fauna 429 00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:25,720 with some differences from the site of Cardones, on the coast of Arucas, 430 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,880 are related to the coastline, 431 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:34,180 and in Piedra Alta, Lanzarote, are related to funds that have been violated. 432 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:41,480 We have used a methodology for this, as I explained before. 433 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,130 All the bibliography that was in the National Museum of Natural Sciences in Madrid, 434 00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:49,800 the Naturhistorisches Museum Wien of Vienna and 435 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,800 the Palaeontology Laboratory of the Biology Department of the ULPGC. 436 00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:01,600 We have revised all the original diagnosis and synonymies as a guarantee of the geographical data. 437 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:07,400 We have carried out a study, taking temperature and chlorophyll samples, 438 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,400 in a number of sampling areas. 439 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,400 We have quantified Sea Surface Temperatures, 440 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,840 of the places where these species live today, 441 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,240 in order to infer from them the temperature reached in the interglacials mentioned above. 442 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:33,240 Synoptic databases, obtained by means of artificial satellites, have been used, 443 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:38,040 provided by the Division of Robotics and Computational Oceanography. 444 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,550 Treatment of Ocean Surface Temperature and Chlorophyll scenes 445 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:46,460 has consisted of obtaining daily, weekly, monthly and monthly syntheses 446 00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:52,060 and yearly in the Eastern Atlantic from 1985 to 2009, 447 00:43:52,060 --> 00:44:00,460 we have made about 1 million 16 thousand temperature observations, which we will explain later. 448 00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:04,110 A constellation of satellites has been used. 449 00:44:04,110 --> 00:44:08,510 For temperature we have used 5-band satellites 450 00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:14,510 with thermal infrared to measure the temperature, with a Swath of 2,700 kilometres, 451 00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:22,010 with high repeatability, with a spatial resolution of 1.1 km and a radiometric resolution of 10 bits. 452 00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:28,010 And for chlorophyll we have used satellites SeaWiFS7/OrbView 453 00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:34,310 with 8 bands, 6 visible and 2 infrared, with a Swath of 2800 km, 454 00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:40,610 with a high repeatability, with a spatial resolution of 1.1 km and a radial resolution of 10 bits. 455 00:44:41,590 --> 00:44:47,610 The thesis had lots of graphs that I won't bore you with. 456 00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:53,370 More or less we see the variation of temperatures by sampling area, so it is clear 457 00:44:53,370 --> 00:45:00,770 than all the others, the Canary Islands is the bottom one, we hardly get 25 degrees. 458 00:45:00,970 --> 00:45:08,260 In the chlorophyll you can see the contribution of chlorophyll, which does not indicate much either. 459 00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:14,260 These are the monthly averages for both temperature and chlorophyll, 460 00:45:14,260 --> 00:45:17,860 from 1999 to 2007. 461 00:45:19,860 --> 00:45:26,260 We have already raised all the issues that we raised with the preceding studies, 462 00:45:26,260 --> 00:45:34,760 we identified the species, the Saccostrea cucullata, the one above is also a vivar. 463 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:40,360 The specimens in the laboratory correspond to the Harpa rosea. 464 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:48,360 As for meteo-oceanography, we knew from previous studies, 465 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:54,360 that they first had to have the necessary temperature to be able to lay their clutches 466 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,960 was 24 degrees Celsius. 467 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,960 The results we had obtained were, for the warm months, 20.77 degrees, 468 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,960 the maximum temperature in the Canary Islands, 23 at the Banc d' Arguin 469 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,360 and 24 or more than 24 in the other zones. 470 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,460 If we applied the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, the distribution was normal, 471 00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:18,460 because the values were less than or equal to 1.5. 472 00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:23,460 And the U-Mann-Whitney test indicated that Senegal and Cape Verde have equal means. 473 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:25,460 This is for temperature. 474 00:46:25,460 --> 00:46:35,660 For chlorophyll, if there was adequate primary production, then it would influence 475 00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:38,160 the laying period and larval development. 476 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:44,760 The results for the warm months, in the Canary Islands we had no more than 0.17 mg/m3, 477 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,760 while in Banc d' Arguin it was 6.74 and in Senegal 7.97. 478 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,760 Other values were widely dispersed. 479 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,760 Applying the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test gave us less than or equal to 1.5; 480 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,820 and with the U-Mann-Whitney test Senegal and the Banc d' Arguin had equal means, 481 00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:04,820 the same as Guinea and Cape Verde. 482 00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:11,810 The ocean currents, those of us here know what the ocean currents are 483 00:47:11,810 --> 00:47:19,810 we have in the Canary Islands, both in the northern winter and in the southern summer. 484 00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:27,810 We came to the conclusions, what we called the Saccostrea cucullatawas the Saccostrea cucullata; 485 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:31,510 what we called Harpa rosea was the Harpa Rosea. 486 00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:36,910 As for the palaeoclimatic conclusions, we saw that the temperature in the Canary Islands, 487 00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:44,930 with everything we had done, that we had collected data from 1985 to 2009, 488 00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:51,730 the average was 20.44, while at the stations it was 20.77, 489 00:47:51,730 --> 00:47:54,080 so there were very few variations. 490 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,880 The areas where the Harpa rosea was alive, as the average was 21.68 at the Banc d' Arguin, 491 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,680 but other conditions did allow life to develop; 492 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,180 and 27.23 in Guinea. 493 00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:12,180 The average for the warm seasons was 22.59 at Banc d'Arguin and 27.43 in Guinea. 494 00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:21,020 There was a difference of 1.82 to 6.66 for isotopic status 5.5, 495 00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:26,020 which modified and increased the accuracy of the data obtained so far 496 00:48:26,020 --> 00:48:30,520 we had based on the Strombus bubonius Mediterranean fossil. 497 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,820 Regarding the areas of the Saccostrea cucullata,live specimens of Saccostrea cucullata 498 00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:41,120 have been found in a much more limited area, limited only to the Gulf of Guinea. 499 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:48,620 The average temperature was 22.86 in Namibe and 27.23 in Guinea 500 00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:54,320 The average in warm seasons was 23.97 and 27.43. 501 00:48:54,320 --> 00:49:02,120 First time these temperatures have been deduced for the interglacial of the marine idiotopic period 11.3, 502 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:08,120 which was only known to have been found in Alaskan deposits of this age, 503 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,120 some extralimital species appear from there. 504 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:23,020 About sea level, we know that in the past they were related to geological activity 505 00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:24,320 of the deposits. 506 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:30,670 It has been shown that the temperature was higher, as it implies a new volume of ice 507 00:49:30,670 --> 00:49:33,970 than today and a higher sea level. 508 00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:39,330 As for the marine isotopic period 11.3, which is the period where the Saccostrea cucullata, 509 00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:44,840 as in the Atlantic of the Canary Islands, it exceeded the current one with an annual change 510 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,340 which were at least 2.42 ºC to 3.53 ºC the highest, 511 00:49:49,340 --> 00:49:53,340 and at most 6.66 ºC to 6.79 ºC were the highest. 512 00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:58,040 This implied the certainty of a much smaller volume of ice 513 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,640 and a higher sea level than at present. 514 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,740 There were about 7 metres that were due to the melting of the arctic ice, and more than 10 metres 515 00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:17,570 that would be needed to exceed the height of 10 metres plus the melting of Antarctic ice. 516 00:50:17,570 --> 00:50:24,570 This confirmation through the paleoindicator is new in relation to what has been previously published. 517 00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:32,370 In terms of isotopic status 5.5, the Atlantic of the Canary Islands exceeds the present one with a variation 518 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:37,670 of at least 1.24°C to 1.82°C in relation to the highest; 519 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:41,670 and at most from 6.66 ºC to 6.79 ºC. 520 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:43,670 And as for sea elevation, 521 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:49,670 if we consider the minima, the sea elevation would correspond to about 7.26 metres, 522 00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:55,270 which is more or less similar to what we had in the marine isotopic state 11.3. 523 00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:59,970 The maximums of the minimums would be 6.42 metres. 524 00:50:59,970 --> 00:51:06,970 And the maxima would not be possible to differentiate between the two isotopic states at sea levels, 525 00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:14,970 that at least 11.3 would be 6 metres above the current one. 526 00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:22,970 The chlorophyll condition is the same, with the concentrations it is all the same. 527 00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:31,570 As for the Canarian presence of these species that we have used as palaeoindicators, 528 00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:35,970 related to their requirements for reproduction and larval dispersal. 529 00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:40,060 That is clear, for someone to arrive they have to have a reproduction. 530 00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:44,460 and a reproduction of the larvae to bring them here. 531 00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:50,460 The species of Saccostrea cucullata that were considered here, were only the African ones, 532 00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:51,910 which is very poorly studied. 533 00:51:51,910 --> 00:52:01,260 For a point of reference, we use Morton's studies from 1990, 534 00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:06,260 on Hong Kong mangroves in the Indian Ocean on gonadal development. 535 00:52:06,260 --> 00:52:11,260 The temperature there in September is 33.5°C, 536 00:52:11,260 --> 00:52:17,260 they mature in October and lay in May and the temperature is approximately 24.5 ºC. 537 00:52:17,260 --> 00:52:19,590 Here we hardly get it. 538 00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:23,190 When the Harpa rosea is much less studied, 539 00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:27,490 their reproduction is coupled to the times when primary reproduction is greatest, 540 00:52:27,490 --> 00:52:31,990 which usually coincides with higher solar irradiance in temperate waters; 541 00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:36,490 a rise in temperature and an increased presence of nutrients in the water, 542 00:52:36,490 --> 00:52:41,370 by terrestrial input, rainfall, upwelling and so on. 543 00:52:41,370 --> 00:52:47,370 In terms of climate anticipation, taking into account what we have seen at the beginning, 544 00:52:47,370 --> 00:52:55,270 the paleotemperature conclusions, we have handled 1,056,186 data, 545 00:52:55,270 --> 00:53:00,770 confirm what the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says. 546 00:53:00,770 --> 00:53:06,770 There is a continuous rise in our temperatures, which is similar to what happened in the past 547 00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:08,770 in both periods. 548 00:53:08,770 --> 00:53:10,770 What will be the effects? 549 00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:14,270 Rising temperatures, rising sea levels, 550 00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:17,270 decrease in sea ice cover, 551 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:21,970 there will be changes in salinity, waves and ocean circulation. 552 00:53:21,970 --> 00:53:29,470 There will be a feedback on global climate and there will be impacts on biological production. 553 00:53:29,470 --> 00:53:38,350 So if El Niño-related warming increases in frequency, 554 00:53:38,350 --> 00:53:42,420 plankton biomass and larval abundance will decline. 555 00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:46,420 Coastal and marine ecosystems will be affected. 556 00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:51,420 According to the projections of the Fourth Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 557 00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:59,120 the temperature increase will be 0.1°C per decade, even reaching 0.2°C. 558 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:05,950 So it may be that the Harpa rosea and other species of the same period 559 00:54:05,950 --> 00:54:09,950 can populate the Canary Islands. 560 00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:15,350 In contrast, theSaccostrea cucullatacarries a geological path of southward displacement, 561 00:54:15,350 --> 00:54:17,080 since the Lower Pleistocene. 562 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,780 It is leaving Morocco, leaving the Mediterranean and settling in the Canary Islands, 563 00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:26,800 leaves the Canaries and leaves Cape Verde. 564 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:33,650 This non-return during this marine isotopic period of the Saccostrea 565 00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:37,880 to the Canary Islands and Cape Verde, means that it is going in a different direction. 566 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,380 Maybe it's going to South Africa, who knows. 567 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:49,380 There you have more or less what can happen, where the fossils are and where they live. 568 00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:55,380 Allow me that whoever believes that everything is written in this world, then Cicero already, 569 00:54:55,380 --> 00:55:02,080 on the nature of the gods said "it is easier for me to find arguments 570 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,880 to prove that something is false you have to prove that something is true". 571 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,880 And Cicero already said that. 572 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:16,280 Then, if any of us have read Daniel Defoe in Robinson Crusoe, 573 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,510 I have extracted a few sentences that say: 574 00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:25,510 "I have often been able to observe how incongruous and irrational the human nature is... 575 00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:28,510 when confronted with the reason that should guide it... 576 00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:34,810 Namely, that man is not ashamed of his deeds, for which, in righteousness, 577 00:55:34,810 --> 00:55:42,910 will be regarded as a fool, but to turn back, which would earn them the reputation of prudent men". 578 00:55:42,910 --> 00:55:46,600 Daniel Defoe said this in Robinson Crusoe. 579 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:53,770 By this I mean, I'm going to make a hymn to palaeontology, everything passes, everything comes back, 580 00:55:53,770 --> 00:55:55,170 life is cyclical. 581 00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:58,660 Climate change exists and will exist. 582 00:55:58,660 --> 00:56:02,860 Another point is what is the human impact. 583 00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:08,800 This is an individual action, no matter what governments say. 584 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:15,800 Each of us has to think globally, but act locally. 585 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,500 Thank you very much and I hope I have not bored you. 586 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:37,200 You don't want any questions, do you? OK, yes. 587 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:47,600 In early September we were following a small hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean, 588 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:55,600 approached the Canary Islands, then went towards the Azores; it stayed 17 days a full-fledged hurricane. 589 00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:04,800 It is one of the longest in history, Nadine was its name. 590 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:12,800 Now this Sandy is coming to New York. 591 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:18,900 Things that apparently have to do with change. 592 00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:31,900 When climate change is mentioned and climate change emissions are almost exclusively talked about 593 00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:39,900 emissions of greenhouse gases, it is often not taken into account that the atmosphere is a very fast-moving medium. 594 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:46,900 Y La Tierra tiene muchísimos mecanismos de feedback. 595 00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:55,400 And these feedback mechanisms, more rain in one place, less in another. 596 00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:03,400 The problem, which is sometimes not sufficiently cited in my opinion, is what about the sea? 597 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,520 For example with the thermohaline current. 598 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,920 When we talk about winters being cold, there used to be winters or springs, 599 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,920 the responsibility lies more with the thermohaline current than with the atmosphere. 600 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:23,920 Thanks are also due here to the palaeontologists, 601 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:31,920 The proxies will tell us what happens, because thermohaline currents are not always like this. 602 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,420 And at different times it changes and will change. 603 00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:46,420 In the thesis I have some transparency of the thermohaline current, but not here. 604 00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:58,420 What we are facing is not only the air, but the sea as well. 605 00:58:58,420 --> 00:59:06,420 And in this sense, I believe that one can never fail to mention this aspect when talking about climate change. 606 00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:15,420 One important issue is to thank palaeontology, which unfortunately 607 00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:23,420 during the 50s, 60s, after Darwin it seemed that science made them stamp collectivists; 608 00:59:23,420 --> 00:59:30,420 thanks to all this, they have made a spectacular comeback on the scene. 609 00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:37,420 Moreover, they are also the ones that provide us with data on what the past was like 610 00:59:37,420 --> 00:59:47,420 so the rest of us scientists have to be grateful for this. 611 00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:54,420 I totally agree with you, but totally. 612 00:59:54,420 --> 01:00:00,420 Yes, I've seen you take a lot of notes. 613 01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:04,420 I have taken notes, but because I like it. 614 01:00:04,420 --> 01:00:12,120 Of these two interglacial episodes you mention, one of 400,000 years and the other of 128,000 years; 615 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:25,120 Note that at the beginning of the conference you went a bit overboard on the causes 616 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:31,120 of climate and temperature changes. 617 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:39,120 From your experience, what would you associate these two major changes with? 618 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,930 Would you associate them with Milankovitch cycles? 619 01:00:42,930 --> 01:00:46,120 No. 620 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,420 What I had to learn about in order to write my thesis, 621 01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:56,920 Milankovitch's theories, well, we did a study that I haven't told you about here, 622 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:02,520 because we studied exactly the two marine isotopic periods. 623 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:10,660 The thesis is in the library, you can read it on 1.5 and 1.3. 624 01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:16,460 There are as many detractors as there are defenders of the Milankovitch Theory. 625 01:01:16,460 --> 01:01:23,560 Some say that orbital changes may play a role, 626 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:29,280 and others who say no, not at all. 627 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:36,280 It may have an impact, but not to the extent that it causes so much climate change. 628 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:44,480 Climate change cannot be attributed to one thing, it is an accumulation of things. 629 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:52,180 I read about it in the newspaper and did not discuss it with anyone in my team 630 01:01:52,180 --> 01:02:00,880 that when the tsunami hit Japan, the Earth's axis shifted by 10 centimetres. 631 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,040 Logically, nobody talks about that any more. 632 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:12,040 Perhaps this displacement may have played a role in these extreme temperature changes. 633 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:20,040 Well, I'm sure it does. 634 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:27,640 It is obviously a set of things. 635 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:33,400 We cannot say that only the temperature has an influence. 636 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:39,200 Well, no, it is influenced by temperature and many other things. 637 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:49,200 Why is it called Greenland? Because in its original language, they meant green land. 638 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:57,200 It was a name like that because they wanted it or it was because it was not covered with ice. 639 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:03,800 Logically, there are lots of causes that lead to that. 640 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:10,800 I don't think we as human beings are going to provoke disaster any more. 641 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:19,600 What we are seeing, because of the impact of human beings, is that there are billions of us, 642 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:26,200 interglacial periods are shortening, 643 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:31,080 because we see it in curves like the ones we saw before. 644 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:41,880 I think so, because at the end of the day, we are a parasite on Planet Earth. 645 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:48,680 There is a carrying capacity for everything, and then there are many of us 646 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680 for this planet to endure. 647 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:58,680 And on top of that we have plundered what we had, because wherever we go we plunder it. 648 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:09,680 That's why I say think globally and act locally. 649 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:16,680 I was mainly referring to, for example, the seismicity of the Earth changing every 100,000 years, 650 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:24,880 as one is 400,000 and the other 100,000, it will have to do with the eccentricity of the Earth. 651 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:31,080 As the rotational movement is every 20,000 years, let's see if you have studied this relationship. 652 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,480 No. 653 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,480 What the spin is, the precession yes. 654 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:44,530 Well, that hasn't occurred to me, that could be the subject of a publication before you retire. 655 01:04:44,530 --> 01:04:50,230 In fact I have been told that it is global. 656 01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:56,030 It's in Bermuda, for example, which is not just here. 657 01:04:56,030 --> 01:05:02,130 This is a problem that we cannot address because it belongs to astronomers and it is already 658 01:05:02,130 --> 01:05:07,630 studied and there are people who know what it is like. 659 01:05:07,630 --> 01:05:14,630 We cannot undertake such studies, we do not have the capacity. 660 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:22,030 And finally, the beautiful thing that you are studying are the interglacials, when you already 661 01:05:22,030 --> 01:05:29,530 climate change, but a great future there is for people who dive, who have marine robot 662 01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:36,530 is to think about the glacial deposits that have been there, all the ones that are underwater, 663 01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:44,530 that are unstudied at 20, 100, 200 metres; and to know easily what interglacials are, 664 01:05:44,530 --> 01:05:50,530 but the unstudied and untouched underwater reservoirs would be missing. 665 01:05:50,530 --> 01:05:54,530 Count me out. 666 01:05:54,530 --> 01:05:59,710 The Iron Age, the Middle Ages... 667 01:05:59,710 --> 01:06:07,710 I wanted to say one thing; there was a standstill in the currents. 668 01:06:07,710 --> 01:06:15,010 5 million years ago and is demonstrated by the completely warm fauna. 669 01:06:15,010 --> 01:06:21,810 Associated with that are huge deposits, 670 01:06:21,810 --> 01:06:29,410 that we have linked to hurricanes and heavy rains, such as the Las Palmas reservoirs 671 01:06:29,410 --> 01:06:32,410 and others like it on Fuerteventura. 672 01:06:32,410 --> 01:06:40,010 In a way, it is a novelty and we also relate to it 673 01:06:40,010 --> 01:06:47,010 about 5 months before Hurricane Nadine hit. 674 01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:55,510 I said that this has happened here before, about 5 million years ago. 675 01:06:55,510 --> 01:07:03,710 from the beginning of the Pleistocene to the end of the Miocene, which is when Panama closes. 676 01:07:03,710 --> 01:07:08,710 When we talk about change not affecting us yet, 677 01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:16,710 100-odd people have died in New York from Nile fever, a bug that has jumped a barrier. 678 01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:24,710 Well, like everything else, and floods, but like everything else. 679 01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:30,760 The problem with flooding is that local councils give licences 680 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:36,760 to build in the middle of a ravine, in the middle of a watercourse, and water 681 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:42,760 The natural course of events continues and we shake our heads. But no. 682 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:49,760 You are talking about a certain homogeneity in the North Atlantic, in the Atlantic in general, 683 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,220 which may be the final result. 684 01:07:52,220 --> 01:07:57,420 Recent studies say that the Atlantic does not function equally in all areas. 685 01:07:57,420 --> 01:08:04,420 But what we were looking for was symmetry and in those isotopic periods. 686 01:08:04,420 --> 01:08:12,920 Related studies to show what was going on and to have an element of comparison 687 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:20,920 with other sites or other studies on the other side of the Atlantic, in case there was symmetry. 688 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:26,060 Finding the entire thermohaline current and the incidence of all currents.ç 689 01:08:26,060 --> 01:08:34,060 Today, articles have come out saying that the Canaries and Bermuda do not work in the same way, 690 01:08:34,060 --> 01:08:40,560 what conditions have to change for them to work the same. It may be related to circulation. 691 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:48,560 Probably. As Joaquín says, the thermohaline circulation, 692 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,710 I have a transparency with all circulation, but not here; 693 01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:57,080 It may happen that due to the rise in temperature the situation changes, 694 01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:03,080 and then stop again, as my director said. 695 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:11,080 The temperature of the Atlantic, which is not homogeneous and is not homogeneous between layers. 696 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:19,080 The big temperature increase is in the higher, shallower layers. 697 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:26,080 The current that resembles the Canary Current, not the thermohaline. 698 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,860 I have my doubts about that, but OK. 699 01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:37,860 I say that today, in the Canary Islands, the surface temperature is increasing, 700 01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:44,860 and initially in the first 700 metres, but on the west side this is not happening. 701 01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:52,360 It is increasing at the surface, but not in the thermohaline, so there are some differences, 702 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:57,960 that it is not yet known which way they will go. 703 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:05,960 Even historical temperature records are being called into question with respect to 704 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:12,960 the last 10 years, when the programme has been in place, 705 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:19,960 there is no evidence that the records are sufficiently valid. 706 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,060 This can also happen. 707 01:10:22,060 --> 01:10:29,660 But I tell you, we have compared with the literature of the same isotopic periods, 708 01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:34,660 I have seen millions of articles. 709 01:10:34,660 --> 01:10:41,160 But well, that's all there is to it, and my thesis is not an end. 710 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,160 My thesis is a start. 711 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,660 It is to open. 712 01:10:44,660 --> 01:10:53,660 What I find most interesting is, connecting the palaeontological findings 713 01:10:53,660 --> 01:10:57,900 with the current situation, which is what shocks me. 714 01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:05,200 Because nowadays doubts are being established, because in the last 20 years 715 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:13,400 temperature increases are significantly lower than those predicted 50 years ago, 716 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:20,400 if indeed the palaeontological results incline us to believe 717 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:27,300 that this is going to have a continuous trend, I don't know if it will be exponential, linear or how, 718 01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:30,400 results depend on the models, 719 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:39,800 The question is how to connect palaeontological results with current data. 720 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,300 In principle, this is what my thesis is about. 721 01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:48,800 But I say again, my thesis does not close a field of research. 722 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,150 My thesis is an opening, this is what it is. 723 01:11:53,150 --> 01:11:57,550 Whoever wants to take the baton and carry on. 724 01:11:57,550 --> 01:12:03,240 This means that it is a question of precision in language. 725 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:11,240 We have some fossils that show that there was a temperature here, 726 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:19,640 it is not logical to think that the fossil has changed from, I was cold and now I am hot, 727 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,840 rather, it is the environmental circumstances that have changed. 728 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:28,840 The presence of fossils from the Gulf of Guinea and the Caribbean, 729 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,370 because some still live today in the Gulf of Guinea and the Caribbean, 730 01:12:32,370 --> 01:12:35,470 for example the Siderastrea radians, that it is a coral. 731 01:12:35,470 --> 01:12:42,470 Fossils are found here in Las Palmas and elsewhere in the archipelago. 732 01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:55,470 The presence of such fauna indicates that the temperature here was higher, 733 01:12:55,470 --> 01:13:05,910 which is in all likelihood related and as the most possible explanation we now see, 734 01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:10,910 with a standstill of the Canary current. 735 01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:16,650 If not total paralysis, at least the Canary current should turn around further upstream, 736 01:13:16,650 --> 01:13:22,150 further north of Portugal, as some of this fauna has entered the Mediterranean. 737 01:13:22,150 --> 01:13:28,150 It is what is called Senegalese fauna there, and previously there was fauna that came in 738 01:13:28,150 --> 01:13:34,550 of the Arctic, with some fossils as well, which are the Cyprina islandica and the Hyalinea balthica, 739 01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:41,550 which is what the Italians called ospiti nordici, guests from the north. 740 01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:43,950 And then comes the Senegalese fauna. 741 01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:54,950 In other words, there are very clear changes at the entrance to the Mediterranean. 742 01:13:54,950 --> 01:14:00,250 And we who are the southern ramp of this gateway to the Mediterranean, 743 01:14:00,250 --> 01:14:03,120 For here are these testimonies. 744 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:08,620 This most likely indicates a stalling of the Canary Current. 745 01:14:08,620 --> 01:14:14,820 Now the relationship between the Canary current and depth, I have no idea. 746 01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:18,860 That is oceanographer stuff. 747 01:14:18,860 --> 01:14:24,360 You are talking about the first 700 metres of water, 748 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:31,360 we are talking about this body of water that you are identifying as surface water, 749 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:36,970 is mainly generated by ventilation processes in the winter. 750 01:14:36,970 --> 01:14:43,170 That's really what characterises the temperature it's going to have 751 01:14:43,170 --> 01:14:45,440 and the salinity it will have. 752 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:51,440 We only talk about the Sea Surface Temperature, 753 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:58,040 i.e. the surface temperature which is the one captured from satellites. 754 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:03,540 In the Gulf of Guinea is the interesting part of this fauna, which we have seen here, 755 01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:08,910 is that they are very shallow, i.e. they do not occur deeper than 10 metres. 756 01:15:08,910 --> 01:15:10,910 They really are littoral. 757 01:15:10,910 --> 01:15:17,010 However, this ratio of satellite temperatures, 758 01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:21,010 is the only one possible at the moment. 759 01:15:21,010 --> 01:15:30,210 When you go on expeditions to Africa and go to every place with a thermometer, 760 01:15:30,210 --> 01:15:37,150 I have put it in some places and the water is at 30, 32 ºC. 761 01:15:39,150 --> 01:15:41,240 But that is a different job. 762 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:50,040 Teams must be moved to the sites, the opportunity to take advantage of the information 763 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:56,940 of satellite surface temperatures to apply to this. 764 01:15:56,940 --> 01:16:01,660 That the application is not correct, it could be. 765 01:16:02,660 --> 01:16:06,660 for the moment we have used a weapon. 766 01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:13,160 I was interested to know, because from the palaeontological findings 767 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:18,330 There is a certain homogeneity between the two coasts, 768 01:16:18,330 --> 01:16:26,630 and I have been working on the comparison of the two coasts for some time now. 769 01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:32,080 Homogeneity is only in height above sea level deposits, 770 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,510 not in fauna. 771 01:16:35,210 --> 01:16:41,350 That is, the sea was 20 metres higher in Bermuda and 20 metres higher in the Canaries. 772 01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:49,850 Now, what the sea was like in Bermuda will be told by the study of Bermuda's fauna 773 01:16:49,850 --> 01:16:51,530 and the relationships they had. 774 01:16:51,530 --> 01:16:57,230 And yes there is fauna in common, but we have to go further back than the Mio-Pliocene. 775 01:16:57,230 --> 01:17:03,350 There was common ground not only with Bermuda, but with the entire Caribbean and the Panama area, 776 01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:09,850 prior to the closure, there was theoretically a mass of surface water, well La Niña, 777 01:17:09,850 --> 01:17:11,850 that crossed the entire Pacific. 778 01:17:11,850 --> 01:17:17,850 It wet those coasts and possibly reached the Canary Islands, we don't know, there are so many models. 779 01:17:17,850 --> 01:17:23,850 What is known is that there is fossil fauna in the Canary Islands that you find in Panama 780 01:17:23,850 --> 01:17:25,200 and in the Caribbean. 781 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,140 But of course, you have to have the vision of the past. 782 01:17:30,140 --> 01:17:35,640 That is, he talks about 4 million years ago and I talk about 420,000 years ago. 783 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:43,730 The same as we will be more or less, a situation of knowing 784 01:17:43,730 --> 01:17:53,150 that a Roman 2,000 years, the Middle Ages 1,100 years, that the Assyrians... 785 01:17:53,150 --> 01:17:59,650 The same applies to all periods for which there are deposits. 786 01:17:59,650 --> 01:18:05,650 It is not only the geographical situation, but also the time frame. 787 01:18:05,650 --> 01:18:12,150 I think the problem is mainly conceptual, because when we talk about climate change, 788 01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:18,650 one sees for example what we saw before, 400,000 years with 4 glacial and 4 interglacial periods, 789 01:18:18,650 --> 01:18:24,650 and takes up one and a half metres; the history of the Earth is 35 kilometres that way. 790 01:18:24,650 --> 01:18:29,350 So we see that it has always had this kind of oscillations. 791 01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:34,000 In the present case, I think the difference between a glacial and an interglacial period, 792 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,930 is to now have 3 kilometres of ice on your neck or not to have them at all. 793 01:18:37,930 --> 01:18:44,930 Perhaps, from my point of view, that we are at the end of what would be that curve, 794 01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:52,230 because for me climate change is a more severe thing, a meteorite for example. 795 01:18:52,230 --> 01:18:58,230 The other day I was watching on television traps in Siberia that generated events 796 01:18:58,230 --> 01:19:01,840 volcanological events that lasted hundreds of years and changed the climate. 797 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:07,840 When we talk about climate change, I think it is somewhat pretentious on the part of human beings, 798 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:13,340 because they are small changes, "tropicalisations" is the term I like to use. 799 01:19:13,340 --> 01:19:20,340 because I assume climate change would be something much more beastly. 800 01:19:22,340 --> 01:19:28,340 For the last 20 million years the climate has been more or less like this. 801 01:19:28,340 --> 01:19:34,340 And two million years ago. 802 01:19:34,340 --> 01:19:38,340 And 400,000 years ago. 803 01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:44,340 And it has gone higher and higher, so it may now go even higher. 804 01:19:44,340 --> 01:19:48,770 The previous ones were much shorter. 805 01:19:48,770 --> 01:19:55,270 It looks as if a star has passed around the Earth and started to fly around a bit. 806 01:19:55,270 --> 01:20:06,060 Because I'm telling you, it's like that, like that and then the upheavals again, but lower than the others. 807 01:20:06,060 --> 01:20:13,060 Those are interglacial-glacial oscillations, but now we have the end point of the graph, 808 01:20:13,060 --> 01:20:19,060 so conditions are changing minimally, by 1 degree every 20 years. 809 01:20:19,060 --> 01:20:28,260 Personally I think that climate change, 20,000 years ago the sea level was rising. 810 01:20:28,260 --> 01:20:35,760 I think political climate change is a bit like the ant versus the elephant. 811 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,760 There is no stopping climate change. 812 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:44,760 Wouldn't it be more accurate to speak of tropicalisation rather than climate change? 813 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:50,760 That perhaps it refers to other kinds of events occurring at different spatio-temporal scales. 814 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:58,760 Tropizalisation here in the Canary Islands, but in Sweden I don't know. 815 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:07,760 That is why the Canary Islands are interesting, because they are 816 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,660 halfway between the equator and the pole. 817 01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:13,770 It is always cold at the pole, more or less, but always cold 818 01:21:13,770 --> 01:21:15,770 and it is always hot at the equator. 819 01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:21,770 But the Canary Islands where climate changes are recorded, 820 01:21:21,770 --> 01:21:27,770 fortunately, they are trapped by lava flows that can be dated. 821 01:21:28,670 --> 01:21:31,770 This happens in few places on Earth. 822 01:21:34,370 --> 01:21:38,550 A very quick question on the issue of deposits, 823 01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:43,330 In Madeira, did they finally find deposits as well? 824 01:21:43,330 --> 01:21:45,530 Yes. 825 01:21:45,530 --> 01:21:52,230 It was to know if the altitude, if the water temperature changes, if the water temperature changes 826 01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:55,230 They also reached as far as Madeira. 827 01:21:57,230 --> 01:21:59,230 Of course. 828 01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:03,800 Any more questions, any more curiosities? 829 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:11,800 For those of you who are studying and are working on your thesis or dissertation, I encourage you to go ahead. 830 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:17,800 and that it's nice to do research, it is like having a little child that you feed. 831 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,330 May I make a clarification? 832 01:22:20,330 --> 01:22:25,060 I encourage them, but I encourage them to do theses in palaeontology. 833 01:22:25,060 --> 01:22:27,060 Well sure of course. 834 01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:34,060 That is clear; you know everything we have in the present comes from what we had in the past, 835 01:22:34,060 --> 01:22:37,170 Everything we do today will have an impact on the future. 836 01:22:37,170 --> 01:22:39,970 Well, thank you very much for your attention.